Thursday Show

Update: We’ll also be discussing this tonight. Packing the stuff in people. Loads to cover. Listen in…call in…dive in….

Just one show this week. Thursday at 6pm Pacific. Click here to listen live or anytime after for the archive. Lots to cover Thursday night from the Presidential campaign (of course) to our conversation here about free speech. Marc Rubin is our guest. Your calls are most welcome. (877) 653-8381.

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44 Responses to Thursday Show

  1. run_dmc says:

    Things that “offend Islam” – atheists. Just listening to a news story about a man in Egypt who blogged about why he was an atheist and encouraging others to understand atheism. He was arrested and is currently in prison being tortured according to people who have been released from same prison and saw him there.

  2. run_dmc says:

    And, in other free speech news, I have to agree with this blogger that Anthea Butler – the “tenured” U Penn prof who wrote that the “Innocence of Muslims” filmmaker should be jailed is the dumbest professor in the world. http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/dumbest-professor-in-the-world-explains-why-mohammed-filmmaker-should-go-to-jail/

    Although, I think his comment about her hair was just mean . . .true, but mean.

  3. run_dmc says:

    Yeah – we would never arrest people for “slandering the prophet” in this country. I’m sure this was ooooonly about a non-violent probation violation, because the federal DOJ always gets involved in making sure someone on probation from a check-kiting offense is following the letter of their probation. http://www.tmz.com/2012/09/27/innocence-of-muslims-producer-arrested-nakoula-basseley-nakoula/

  4. NoEmptySuits says:

    That arrest is disgusting. Talk about chilling the exercise of free speech!

    • Jay Floyd says:

      Devil’s Advocate:

      So, a person starts making worldwide headlines for doing something that is a violation of his probation terms (namely, using the internet after being prohibited from doing so after a bank fraud conviction). They’re supposed to NOT arrest him?

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      Arresting someone from parole/probation violations are a matter of prosecutorial discretion, to my knowledge. Probably, he could’ve been given a stern warning for the first violaton. If there was ever a case for exercising discretion in favor of a first warning, this would be it. I mean, can you imagine all the Islamist crazies getting the wrong idea here, ie, that they got their way (partially, since executing the film-maker is their ultimate goal) by murder and mayhem?!

      Maybe I’m wrong on this (criminal law isn’t my area), but you can be sure I’ll be checking in with my crim. defense friends.

      I don’t rule out Eric Holder’s hand in this; hard to believe he’d be out of the loop on such a high-profile case.

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      Erratum: “…Arresting someone for parole/probation violations is a matter of prosecutorial discretion,….”

    • tamerlane says:

      I think Deadenders was on to something when he suggested that ‘Nick Bacile’ and his youtube were plucked from obscurity as a cover for the attacks the WH knew were imminent.

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      I don’t know, Tamer…too large a conspiracy bullet for me to swallow. If they knew a terrorist attack in Libya was imminent, why didn’t they just fortify the hell out of American properties in Tripoli, Benghazi, etc.?

    • tamerlane says:

      NES, they’d already foolishly handed security over to a local moslem militia. Too late to do anything but spread FUD.

  5. NoEmptySuits says:

    myiq: I do hope you’ll do a post on the arrest of the film-maker. We need a former criminal defense attorney’s sharp eye on it. Am I correct in assuming that prosecutorial discretion could’ve been exercised to avoid arresting him for a parole/probation violation?

  6. conner43 says:

    Thanks for a very compelling show John..If we turn around Mr. Rubin’s reaction, voting Against Obama rids us of Eric Holder, untold czars, Meesh’s 22 handmaidens, and best of all, Valjar, Asselrod, et al.. Hillary is leaving anyway, if she isn’t thrown under the bus for Benghazi-gate first. So all in all, that one vote sweeps a lot of junk out the door, quite a bargain, imo.

    • tamerlane says:

      Saruman the Wise apparently views the Tea Party’s grumblings as more of a danger than indefinite detention, assassination of US citizens by presidential decree, endless wars with war crime sprinkles on top, and a general shredding of the Constitution.

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      “Saruman the Wise” is a reference to the main guest of John’s show?
      In any event, love the reference.

    • tamerlane says:

      Had to look the exact lines up (not THAT much of a geek), but this is what came to mind:

      Saruman: We must join with Him, Gandalf. We must join with Sauron. It would be wise, my friend.
      Gandalf: Tell me, “friend”, when did Saruman the Wise abandon reason for madness?

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      Yes, that’s the scene! (Saw it on a plane recently.)

    • tamerlane says:

      Chris Mathews: Romney is a racist! Grrr, racist! Grrr!! (Drools.)
      Boromir: They have a cave troll.

    • gxm17 says:

      What tamerlane said.

      I was aghast at Rubin’s bizarre logic and his whinging about the Tea Party. The final straw was his calling Ryan a liar as if that factory story is as important as the current Benghazi cover-up that the WH is engaging in. Good grief, what skewed priorities and twisted rationalizing. But the one takeaway, which is heartening, is that ObamaNation is scared. They realize that there’s a chance Romney will win in November. Not that he’ll be much, if any, better than the current WH resident, but I’m so rattled by Obama’s seeming endorsement of blasphemy laws that I’m finding myself inching towards a Romney vote.

  7. tamerlane says:

    Jill Stein is on the ballot in 37 states plus DC. A write-in for Stein will count in CT, GA, IN, MO & NH. She’s suing to get on the ballot in KS, MT, NC, SD, VT & WY, and could use volunteers there.

  8. tamerlane says:

    “Why I Refuse to Vote for barack obama”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/why-i-refuse-to-vote-for-barack-obama/262861/#.UGPELAz2DK-.facebook

    h/t Fionnchu for this pull-quote:
    “If you’re a utilitarian who plans to vote for Obama, better to mournfully acknowledge that you regard him as the lesser of two evils, with all that phrase denotes.”

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      Wow, that’s a powerful, principled statement. Good For the fella.

    • Dan Sh1138 says:

      Great show John, I appreciated hearing all of the different perspectives.Thanks to Marc, Annabelle, Tamerlane and Lynne from Los Angeles! I kind of liked the 90min format, although Bob Barker seemed pretty pissed off.

      My favorite part was Tamerlane making the analogy between Obama and Sauron, we need more moments like that!

      Tamer, I do have an idea for an article, will email you tonight or in the AM EST.

    • tamerlane says:

      Dan, get my private email from John. My TLN mailbox is all frakked-up right now.

    • Jay Floyd says:

      “Romney revels in bellicosity; Obama soothes with rhetoric and kills people in secret.”

      I so want to send this article to several people. But it will only make me more numb when they ignore it.

    • tamerlane says:

      Send it to them. You never know what little thing will crack the grip of a cult on someone.

      I’m pounding my prog friends with one narrow message: I don’t vote for assassins.

    • fionnchu says:

      T/L, thanks for the share; on FB after the same, the usual O-bots massed around me in cyberspace as they do in real life, reciting the same “what if Romney wins?” and again blaming me for Nader, Florida 2000, and all Tea Party evils my 3P voting engendered. No blame ever is assumed by those who praise O. They refuse to take the loss of civil liberties seriously, and the “lesser of two evils” pragmatism ensures they feel no guilt.

  9. conner43 says:

    Aren’t voters like Mr. Rubin just trying to justify their vote, because they cannot admit they were wrong the first time around ?
    Not to single him out, he has a lot of company, including most of the media.

    • tamerlane says:

      Rubin was an outspoken Hillary supporter in 2008. He & I (& Jay & John) were fellow members of the tragi-comic JSND. I remember agreeing with Marc on conference calls and in email exchanges. He and a colleague formed The Denver Group to protest the criminal DNC convention, and ran full-page ads calling for Hillary to be nominated by the super-delegates. Rubin has been on the JWS Show many times outlining all the fraud committed by the obama campaign during the 2008 primaries.

      It seems Rubin has now succumbed to the pressure of the proglodytes around him to join the cult. The rationalizations he gave for supporting obama were insipid. His argument against voting 3P was tautological. I think Marc was just lonely, and missed the collective mind of The Hive.

    • zaladonis says:

      That story and video reveals so much.

      Mona Eltahawy, whom I got attacked for correctly pegging during the Arab Spring bruhaha, is a bully whose perception is distorted by the chip on her shoulder, thinks she has a right to deface public property.

      The MTA, one of the most corrupt institutions in New York, gives power to people like Eltahawy.

      The cops who arrested her are so ill trained they can’t even tell her what she’s being arrested for.

      At the end of the video bystanders are laughing; to Americans today everything is clever and funny – unless, of course, it offends their tender personal sensibilities.

      That video is another harbinger of what’s actually going on. Great find, votermom.

    • NoEmptySuits says:

      First time I’ve heard of Eltahawy. What’d she do during the Arab Spring?

    • votermom says:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Eltahawy
      She’s a journalist that was in Cairo and got sexually assaulted by the mob and then arrested by the military. She’s anti-Mubarak and anti-MB and has been outspoken about the misogyny of Islam.
      Wiki says she became a US citizen in 2011 – maybe that explains why she doesn’t understand the concept of Free Speech.

    • tamerlane says:

      The MTA has just told the public, “If you don’t like any of the billboards, just get violent, and we’ll take it down for you.”

      Brain rot perversity.

    • zaladonis says:

      No, not “the mob,” she said she was sexually assaulted by police after she was arrested. Which I don’t doubt for a minute. This was in November last year.

      My criticism was long before that, when she was tweeting from Chicago during the initial uprising in Tahrir Square.

    • votermom says:

      My bad – got her mixed up with the other reporter.

  10. NoEmptySuits says:

    Ralph Nader thinks a billionaire candidate will break the Dem-GOP duopoly in 2016. He mentions Gates (sounds far-fetched).
    http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/27/nader-obama-running-selfish-race/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS

  11. Anthony says:

    Finally got to listen to your show, and have to say that Marc Rubin is a disappointment. WTF?!

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